Saturday, January 21, 2017

Presidents and Generations - SNGF

For this week's Saturday Night Genealogy Fun Randy Seaver of GeneaMusings suggested we determine how many presidents have held office during our lifetimes and the lifetimes of our grandparents.  Randy generously provided the link to PresidentsUSA, the source for my lists. 

I have lived while 13 men have been president (which makes me feel old -- until I realized that one of my ancestors lived through 23 presidencies!).
#33  Harry S. Truman
#34  Dwight D. Eisenhower
#35  John F. Kennedy
#36  Lyndon B. Johnson
#37  Richard M. Nixon
#38  Gerald R. Ford
#39  James E. Carter
#40  Ronald Reagan
#41  George H. W. Bush
#42  William J. Clinton
#43  George W. Bush
#44  Barack H. Obama
#45  Donald J. Trump

Lee Doyle (1913-1987), my father, lived during the leadership of 14 presidents.
#27  William H. Taft
#28  Woodrow W. Wilson
#29  Warren G. Harding
#30  Calvin Coolidge
#31  Herbert Hoover
#32  Franklin D. Roosevelt
#33  Harry Truman
#34  Dwight D. Eisenhower
#35  John F. Kennedy
#36  Lyndon B. Johnson
#37  Richard M. Nixon
#38  Gerald R. Ford
#39  James E. Carter
#40  Ronald Reagan

Audrey Meinzen Doyle (1915-1997), my mother, had one less president at the beginning of her life than my father but two more at the end of her life, so 15.
#28  Woodrow W. Wilson
#29  Warren G. Harding
#30  Calvin Coolidge
#31  Herbert Hoover
#32  Franklin D. Roosevelt
#33  Harry Truman
#34  Dwight D. Eisenhower
#35  John F. Kennedy
#36  Lyndon B. Johnson
#37  Richard M. Nixon
#38  Gerald R. Ford
#39  James E. Carter
#40  Ronald Reagan
#41  George H. W. Bush
#42  William J. Clinton

William Carl Robert Meinzen (1892-1979), my maternal grandfather, lived during 17 presidencies.
#23  Benjamin Harrison
#24  Grover Cleveland
#25  William McKinley
#26  Theodore Roosevelt
#27  William H. Taft
#28  Woodrow W. Wilson
#29  Warren G. Harding
#30  Calvin Coolidge
#31  Herbert Hoover
#32  Franklin D. Roosevelt
#33  Harry Truman
#34  Dwight D. Eisenhower
#35  John F. Kennedy
#36  Lyndon B. Johnson
#37  Richard M. Nixon
#38  Gerald R. Ford
#39  James E. Carter

Henry Carl Meinzen (1837-1925), my maternal great-grandfather, though not an American citizen until 1870, was alive during 22 presidencies.  He became a citizen during the presidency of Ulysses S. Grant.
  #7  Andrew Jackson
  #8  Martin Van Buren
  #9  William Henry Harrison
#10  John Tyler
#11  James K. Polk
#12  Zachary Taylor
#13  Millard Fillmore
#14  Franklin Pierce
#15  James Buchanan
#16  Abraham Lincoln
#17  Andrew Jackson
#18  Ulysses S. Grant
#19  Rutherford B. Hayes
#20  James A Garfield
#21  Chester Arthur
#22  Grover Cleveland
#23  Benjamin Harrison
#24  Grover Cleveland
#25  William McKinley
#26  Theodore Roosevelt
#27  William Howard Taft
#28  Woodrow Wilson

Dixon Bartley (1806-1900), my father's maternal great-grandfather, lived during the presidencies of 23 men.
  #3  Thomas Jefferson
  #4  James Madison
  #5  James Monroe
  #6  John Quincy Adams
  #7  Andrew Jackson
  #8  Martin Van Buren
  #9  William Henry Harrison
#10  John Tyler
#11  James K. Polk
#12  Zachary Taylor
#13  Millard Fillmore
#14  Franklin Pierce
#15  James Buchanan
#16  Abraham Lincoln
#17  Andrew Jackson
#18  Ulysses S. Grant
#19  Rutherford B. Hayes
#20  James A Garfield
#21  Chester Arthur
#22  Grover Cleveland
#23  Benjamin Harrison
#24  Grover Cleveland
#25  William McKinley

Augustine Bickerstaff (1759-1857), my maternal grandmother's great-great-grandfather (or my 4th great-grandfather), lived during 14 presidents.
  #1  George Washington
  #2  John Adams
  #3  Thomas Jefferson
  #4  James Madison
  #5  James Monroe
  #6  John Quincy Adams
  #7  Andrew Jackson
  #8  Martin Van Buren
  #9  William Henry Harrison
#10  John Tyler
#11  James K. Polk
#12  Zachary Taylor
#13  Millard Fillmore
#14  Franklin Pierce

No matter which lines I follow and how I calculate it, besides myself, I need six more generations to have lived during the presidency from the beginning of the United States until our current president.  The only woman on these lists is my mother, primarily because my female ancestors seemed to live shorter lives than the men.  (And I was searching for longevity to increase the number of presidents during their lifetimes.)

While compiling these lists for my ancestors I began to wonder to which men and parties they gave their allegiance, which proposed ideas that they believed were right and true.  Though the issues would have been very different from those in our time I wonder how my sympathies would have aligned (or not) with theirs in their lifetimes, and how theirs might align with mine now.

--Nancy.

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Friday, January 20, 2017

Mrs. Titus on a Windy Day - Friday's Faces from the Past


Mrs. Titus is my grandmother's friend.  I have no first name, no information about how she came to know Mrs. Titus but I believe they must have been good friends because Gramma's album has nearly as many photos of Mrs. Titus as of any other one family member.

My guess for a date of this photo is the early to mid-1910s.  I notice that the house number if 222.  If a census taker recorded house numbers it could be a clue for the address but finding Mrs. Titus's first name and anything about her feels like searching for a needle in a haystack.

--Nancy.

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Tuesday, January 17, 2017

Research Results Based on Hints in an Obituary

When I found an obituary for Sophia Meinzen Kropp, the supposed sister of my great-grandfather Henry Meinzen, I listed every possible hint in that obituary.  And then I researched based on the hints.  This post is a compilation of the results of that research.

Below are the results of following those hints.  

Hint 1)  died on September 6, 1920

Hint 2)  celebrated her 78th birthday on Saturday, September 4, 1920
  • Ohio death certificate gives birth date of September 4, 1842, which can be used to calculate her age (of 78)

Hint 3)  born in Germany 

Hint 4)  married Carl Kropp in Germany in 1861  
  • church record for Carl's death gives marriage date of September 14, 1863
  • Carl's obituary recorded that he married "Sophie Minsinger" in Germany but does not give a date


Hint 5)  immigrated from Germany to the U.S. in 1887 

Hint 6)  settled in Steubenville/Jefferson County upon arrival
  • Carl's obituary states that after arriving in 1887 they settled in "this city" (Steubenville).
  • Several of the children's obituaries (links below) suggest that they came directly to Steubenville but don't specifically state it.
  • I've no other information to substantiate this but it's possible that city directories may list Sophie and Carl.

Hint 7)  husband Carl Kropp died about 15 years ago (therefore about 1905) 
  • Carl appeared in the 1900 U.S. Census living with his wife, daughter Sophie, and son-in-law John Spahn
  • He is absent from the 1910 U.S. Census 
  • The name "Carl Kropt" appears in Jefferson County Probate Court death records with date of death as May 30, 1905.
  • His obituary appeared in The Steubenville Daily Gazette on Wednesday, May 31, 1905, giving a death date of May 30, 1905.
  • church record gives date of death as May 30, 1905

Hint 7)  Sophie was a member of Zion Lutheran Church
  • Zion Evangelical Lutheran Church, now Zion United Christ Church, did not produce a membership record for Sophie nor have a record pertaining to her death. 

Hint 8)  She was survived by daughters Mrs. John Spahn and Mrs. Minnie Schuette, and son William Kropp, all of Steubenville
  • the 1900 U.S. Census notes that she was the mother of 6 children, 4 living
  • Carl's 1905 obituary lists four living children (Minnie, wife of Henry Shutti; William, Henry and Sophie, wife of John Spahn)
  • in the 1900 U. S. Census she was living with daughter Sophia and son-in-law John Spahn (She was listed as mother.)
  • in the 1910 U.S. Census she was listed as mother-in-law, living with Sophie and John Spahn
  • in the 1920 U.S. Census she was listed as grandmother, living with Sophie and John Spahn
  • informant on Ohio death certificate was Mrs. John Spahn but no relationship was noted.
  • Known Child #1  Minnie Kropp Schuette.  Minnie's obituary notes that she was born in Hanover, Germany, and is the daughter of Carl and Sophia "Meingen" Kropp who were also born in Germany.
  • Known Child #2  William Henry Kropp.  William's Ohio death certificate notes that he was born in Germany and that his mother was Sophia Meinsen Kropp, also born in Germany.
  • Known Child #3  Henry Kropp.  Henry's Ohio death certificate notes that he was born in Germany and was the son of Carl Kropp and Sophie "Don't Know."
  • Known Child #4  Sophia Kropp (Mrs. John) Spahn. 

Hint 9  Survived by brother Henry Meinzen
  • Henry Meinzen's daughter Isabelle Meinzen's wedding announcement lists as attendees Mr. and Mrs. Carl Cropp, Mr. and Mrs. Henry Schuette, Mr. and Mrs. John Spahn, and Messrs. Henry and Will Kropp, but does not note a relationship.
  • I've yet to find any information that confirms this sibling relationship.

Comments
I think it's worthwhile to research hints in an obituary.  One may find a wealth of genealogical information.  None of my research on Sophia Meinzen Kropp makes a direct connection between her and my great-grandfather Henry Meinzen but if I had been searching to find more about Sophia without trying to make a connection to a sibling these searches produced great results.  In fact, Sophia's death certificate lists her father's name, and her husband's church record notes his parents' names and the location of his birth.  You never know what you'll find.

--Nancy.

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Friday, January 6, 2017

Mrs. Titus - Friday's Faces From the Past


Mrs. Titus was my grandmother Emma Bickerstaff Meinzen's friend.  Other than that I know nothing about her but she seems to me to have a pleasant, serene appearance.  Grandma has photos of her from this age until she was older, sitting in a wheelchair.

I would like to know where and how they met and how they became friends.  Perhaps some day I will research her.

This image was scanned from a photo, about 1 1/2" square, found in my grandmother's photo album.

If someone related to Mrs. Titus happens to read this post I would love to hear from you!

--Nancy.

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Sunday, January 1, 2017

Happy New Year 2017, Family and Blogging Friends



My wish for you as the new year begins is health, happiness, friendship, love, and success in your family history endeavors.

Happy New Year to you and yours!

--Nancy.
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Saturday, December 31, 2016

The Highs of 2016

I have a tiny little blog and I won't embarrass myself by telling you how many (or how few) posts I wrote in 2016, nor will I tell you the number of views each of the top five posts had.  I will tell you that it's no surprise that only one of the most-viewed posts focuses on my family; the others are more general to genealogy research.  In reverse order these are the five most read posts of 2016 on My Ancestors and Me.

5th)  A Family Resemblance? - Friday's Faces from the Past
This post explores the possibility that a tiny photo in my grandmother's album is a photo of the mother of a cousin whose mother had died when she was two.  Did I imagine a family resemblance or is there really one?

4th)  The Best Place to Find a German Immigrant's Hometown
While researching the same supposed sister of the same great-grandfather, I learned the best place to find a German immigrant's hometown.  (Unfortunately, the best place did not have a record of her hometown.)

3rd) Travel in Steerage - Websites to Learn More
Having learned that the supposed sister of my great-grandfather and several of her family members travelled from Germany to the U.S. in steerage, I wanted to learn more about that method of travel and what the experience might have been like for them. 

3rd)  The Best Place to Find a German Immigrant's Hometown
While researching the same supposed sister of the same great-grandfather, I learned the best place to find a German immigrant's hometown.  (Unfortunately, the best place did not have a record of her hometown.)

2nd)  Another Kind of Genealogy Toolbox
Most of us probably think of genealogy toolboxes in terms of record collections (both online and/or in repositories), books, and other physical resources.  This post suggests tools of a different kind, one comprised of traits and attributes, both innate and learned.

1st)  Transcription and Translation of a Church Record Written in German
It seems I'm not the only one interested in translating and transcribing old German records.  This post had more views this year than any other.

I've been enjoying reading other bloggers' lists of their top posts of the year.

--Nancy.

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Tuesday, December 27, 2016

Don't Wait.  A Cautionary Tale - Tuesday's Tip

A little over a month ago my daughter and I drove north several hours to visit my 95-year-old aunt, my mother's second youngest sister.  She has a few medical problems but when I speak with her on the phone she is lucid, appears to have an excellent memory, and speaks clearly.  She's been interested in and supportive of my family history efforts, has answered many questions and identified people in photos, and has always indicated that she would continue to help identify people in old photos and answer questions.

Before we went I finished scanning photos from my grandmother's album and printed them.  (The album itself is/was far too fragile to take along with its black pages shedding fibers.)  I hoped my aunt might be able to identify some of the people, perhaps know or at least suggest possible locations, and share stories or memories of the individuals in the photos.

The photos in the album range in size from about 1" x 1" up to 5" x 7" for individual portraits with most being in the 2 1/2" x 5" size.  I printed the photos at 4" x 6" or 5" x 7" thinking that my aunt might need the larger size to see the images more clearly.  When my aunt pulled out a small magnifying glass to look at the images I realized the larger sizes were not a help.

Not only was her vision failing but her memory of faces has begun to fade.  Was that cousin Edward or cousin James?  In another photo, which was Uncle William, Uncle John, Uncle Andrew, and Uncle Dan?  It could have been a compound problem of slightly unclear photos and/or slightly dimmed vision and/or a fading memory.

I'm grateful my aunt was willing to look at the photos, try to remember people, and identify those she recognized.  My disappointment comes from knowing that I didn't show her the photos and ask her to identify individuals sooner.  Who else could I ask?  I know of no one.

The lesson?  Don't wait!  We've all heard it before but it finally hits home when it happens to you.  If you have old photos to be identified, if you have questions to ask, don't wait!  Ask those older relatives now.  They're not getting any younger, their vision is not improving, and their memories aren't getting any better.  Ask now.

--Nancy.

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Monday, December 26, 2016

A Box for Christmas - A Childhood Memory

During many childhood summers I spent a week at the home of my cousin, Belinda, who was just nine months older than me.  One particular summer when I was perhaps seven or eight, I remember that her mother/my aunt bought each of us a book of paper dolls,
probably with the hope that it would occupy us and keep us quiet and out of her hair for an hour or two.

If you are my age and played with paper dolls you probably remember that they were sold in books about 9" x 12" with a cover and four or six single-sided pages of clothes.  The dolls were printed on the heavier cardboard covers and die cut so they could be punched out (with care) or so that a few snips with scissors would free them from the page.

The doll clothes themselves needed to be cut out with scissors.  Unlike the clothes above, the ones for our dolls had tabs at the shoulders and sides which we folded over to hold the clothes in place.

After an hour or two of cutting, Belinda and I each had a stack of clothes, but we had nowhere to keep them safe.  I told my aunt I needed a box.  When she told me she didn't have a box, I must have been insistent that I needed one because she finally said, "I'll give you a box for Christmas."  Though that didn't satisfy the immediate need, I was happy enough and agreed that a box for Christmas would be great.  I don't remember what we did the our dolls and collection of clothes.

As a child I loved boxes.  Not thin cardboard, fold-down, collapsible gift boxes, but real boxes, sturdy boxes -- hefty paper-covered cardboard or wooden cigar boxes; lidded pasteboard boxes with glued and reinforced edges; candy boxes; wooden cheese boxes, or even lidded cardboard cheese boxes; wooden Shaker boxes, wooden recipe boxes.  Good boxes.  Beautiful, useful boxes.  I was always on the lookout for a better school supply box, one that was sturdy and wouldn't crush or break apart.  (Those cheap plastic boxes children use these days were not yet being mass-produced.)  I don't know how or where my affinity for boxes developed but it continues to this day.  I find it hard to walk away from an attractive, sturdy box with a lid.  Boxes have so much potential.

Six months had elapsed between that summer day we cut out and played with paper dolls and Christmas Day.  Belinda and her family arrived with gifts in hand for all the nieces and nephews/cousins.  We were all gathered in our living room exchanging gifts.  I was sitting on the floor and my aunt handed down a wrapped gift with ribbon and bow.  When I unwrapped the square box I found it empty.  My aunt and cousin laughed and reminded me that I'd agreed on an empty box for Christmas.  I was chagrined.  I was surprised to receive an empty box.  I'd forgotten about the paper dolls, but the worst part was that the box was one of those cheap, flimsy, collapsible ones.  That summer day when I asked for a box I was imagining a sturdy, elongated candy box with a fitted lid, just the right size for paper dolls and their clothes.  After Belinda and her mom (along with everyone else in the room) stopped laughing, my aunt handed me another gift.  I have no memory what it was.

Isn't it strange that some events nestle (or wedge) into our memories -- and others wisp away like smoke?

--Nancy.

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Thursday, December 22, 2016

The Sussex Carol - Blog Caroling with footnoteMaven

Again this December footnoteMaven has invited us to Blog Carol by posting our favorite Christmas carol.  Thank you, fM!

My favorite changes each year but is always the carol with the tune that dances in my mind or with lyrics that twirl in my brain.

This year I've chosen "The Sussex Carol," also known (at least to me) as "On Christmas Night All Christians Sing."  It may have been composed as early as the late 1600s and several variations of the lyrics exist.  The ones with this post were collected by Ralph Vaughan Williams, probably in the early 1900s.  Below is the 2008 Choir of King's College singing the carol.  The lyrics follow.  I hope you sing along and enjoy.



                                       The Sussex Carol

                         On Christmas night all Christians sing
                         To hear the news the angels bring.
                         News of great joy, news of great mirth,
                         News of our merciful King's birth.

                         Then why should men on earth be so sad,
                         Since our Redeemer made us glad,
                         When from our sin he set us free,
                         All for to gain our liberty?

                         When sin departs before His grace,
                         Then life and health come in its place.
                         Angels and men with joy may sing
                         All for to see the new-born King.

                         All out of darkness we have light,
                         Which made the angels sing this night:
                         "Glory to God and peace to men,
                         Now and for evermore, Amen!"


Come carol with other family history bloggers.  Click through to footnoteMaven's post, fM's Tradition of Blog Caroling, where you can find links to others' favorites in the comments.

I wish you and yours a Merry Christmas!

--Nancy.

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Saturday, December 10, 2016

FOR SALE--- Shopping Saturday







This classified ad was published in the Ohio newspaper, The Niles Standard, on Friday, December 19, 1941.  
FOR SALE—Kitchen cabinet,  $5;  por-
   celain sink, $2   Inquire Mrs. Robert
   Meinzen,  Mineral Ridge.        11-1t

It's always fun to find little notices like this in local newspapers contemporary to the lives of my ancestors.  Mrs. Robert Meinzen is my grandmother, the one who lived just a few doors down the street from my childhood home.

This notice causes me to imagine that my grandparents had recently updated their kitchen.  I imagine they didn't have a use for the porcelain sink and cupboard that had been removed and decided to sell them.  Had the updating of the kitchen been done during the previous week or had it taken longer?  It's possible the work was done by my grandmother's father and/or brother who were both carpenters.  What did the porcelain sink and kitchen cabinet look like?

Did they decide to sell these items at this time to have a little more money for Christmas gifts?  The value of $2.00 in 1941 is equal to $33.55 today.  The value of $5.00 in 1941 is equal in value to $83.87 today.  Looking at the December 19, 1941 issue of  The Youngstown Daily Vindicator I see that Gramma could have purchased enough food for a week or two of meals.  (Pearl Harbor had been bombed just 12 days before this ad was published:  rationing would not yet have been in place and food was plentiful.)  Or she could have purchased several items of clothing, but she would not have been able to buy any modern conveniences.

The biggest questions, of course, are whether Gramma was able to sell the sink and cupboard and, if she did sell them, whether she received her asking price. 

Gramma and Grampa had four daughters.  Two were already married at the time this ad was published; another would be married in February, 1942; and the last daughter, the youngest, was 13, turning 14 in 8 days.  With two daughters grown and living in their own homes, Gramma's budget would have been a little lighter than when feeding and caring for four daughters.

One of the daughters is still alive and it's possible she may remember the removal and sale of this porcelain sink and kitchen cupboard.  It's equally possible she won't remember, but I'll ask.  I have happy memories of being in Gramma's kitchen but she did not have a porcelain sink.

--Nancy.

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